In our latest episode, Alex Botting and Jen Ellis from the Center for Cybersecurity Policy & Law are joined by the Australian Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology, Brendan Dowling. In the conversation, Ambassador Dowling provides context on Australia’s numerous recent cyber policy developments, including the appointment of the inaugural Australian National Cyber Security Coordinator, the upcoming 2023-2030 Australian national cybersecurity strategy, and some of the lessons learned from the recent Medibank and Optus cyber incidents.  He also gives his optimistic perspective on where we are today and where we can get to in the coming years.